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        EETE: As AI algorithms get bigger every   specific tasks. Instead, you can use a reduced   number of work threads they run through
        year, they require more computing   model if, for example, you limit your dataset   each of these chips. [Recently,] we were very
        power. Do you see that trend continuing,   to what your company or industry needs.   excited to have announced an even more
        or do you see the algorithms becoming   Reducing the scope allows you to reduce the   compact version, called Zen 4c. We’ve made
        more efficient?                     model size, and that is another way of driving   it more energy-efficient for cloud-native
        Papermaster: The need for bigger and bigger   more energy-efficient AI computing.  tasks.
        computers to support the most sophisticated                               If you’re running cloud-native applica-
        and accurate AI models is indeed growing.   EETE: We talked about the big   tions at hyperscale, where you need a lot of
        Large language models and other types of   supercomputers that enable AI. But let’s   work threads, you need them to run in a very
        generative AI are really driving the massive   not forget about the data centers that   energy-efficient manner. The fourth genera-
        scaling up of supercomputers.       serve less ambitious applications—the   tion of our processor, code-named Bergamo,
          On the one hand, large language models   regular data centers that we rely on   takes the number of CPUs to 128 and doubles
        are running up to hundreds of billions of   every day. How are you approaching that   the number of threads on each chip. It’s
        parameters, and they are well on their way   market?                    highly efficient and you can get 3.7× the per-
        to a trillion parameters. As they grow, it’s   Papermaster: That’s a very strong market   formance of competitors, like Ampere, which
        breathtaking to see the kinds of content   for AMD and one in which AMD has been   are also designed for cloud-native workloads.
        they create and the kinds of questions they   steadily gaining ground. In fact, we have a   And going back to how we tailor our
        answer. But that impressive capacity comes   majority share in the hyperscale CPU clusters   approach to the needs of an application
        at a cost.                          that run business applications. We are now   domain, for scientific computing, we
          Large language models ingest a massive   on our fourth generation of the Zen line of   announced AMD 3D V-Cache, where we took
        amount of training data, which requires   high-performance CPUs, which is shipping   the fourth-generation x86 core and stacked
        supercomputer-class computational power.   in the fourth generation of EPYC servers for   on additional cache. Remember that difficult
        Because the need will continue to grow, it’s   general-purpose computing.  scientific tasks need data to be very close to
        essential that we have more advanced tech-  Our four generations of CPU-based   the processing core. So we stack the cache
        niques for energy-efficient supercomputing.   computing have been doing very well. We’ve   vertically, right on top. This results in huge
        The holistic design I described is the best way   added more CPUs at every generation, and   improvements in throughput for the types
        to achieve that.                    the most recent generation of EPYC servers   of workloads that run in electronic design
          On the other hand, there will be innovation   has 96 CPU cores on every chip and runs two   automation or computer-aided design. We
        in the way that AI models are used. You don’t   work threads on each. This means a data   achieve significant acceleration, which is of
        need a general-purpose language model for   center operator immediately doubles the   great benefit to applications like Ansys. ■

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